ronny:i'd say happier than the pillsbury doughboy on his way to a baking convention. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. >>> welcome back. we are learning more about the severe security risks plaguing health care.gov. before you enter your personal private information and other information into the site, we have to warn you. joining me now, david kennedy, the founder of trusted s.e.c. and he's known as the white hat hacker. also with us, the president of fms inc., luke chung. >> thanks for having me. >> you say there were no security considerations given. none? zero? >> none that we can tell and none that's been identified or made publically. if you look at the way websites are built, they build in components to protect against hackers and around sensitive information. the claim to fame for the health care.gov website is they don't technically score information. however the data hub connects to the different agencies that have social security numbers. i love the new delivery system. >> right. >> if you had to rate amazon in terms of secu